EP406: But He's Not Spiritual - An Interview with My Husband (and Business Partner)

In this episode, I sits down with my husband, Matt, for a raw and refreshingly honest conversation about spirituality, partnership, and what it really looks like to grow together when you’re evolving in completely different ways.

 

We explore the tension between wanting to be deeply seen in your healing journey and learning to honor the individuality, pace, and language of the person you love.

 

I open up about the ego patterns that surfaced in my awakening, the messy desire for validation, and the tenderness of learning to stand in my truth without needing my partner to mirror it.

 

Matt shares his grounded perspective on spirituality, emotional labor in relationships, and the realities of holding space during someone’s rock bottoms. Together, we break down communication, boundaries, business, nervous system regulation, and why authenticity matters more than alignment that looks good on the internet.

 

If you’ve ever wondered how to navigate a relationship where one person is “more spiritual,” or if you’ve been craving a down-to-earth conversation about love, personal growth, and the hard moments in between, this episode is for you.

 

You’ll walk away with new insight into sovereignty, acceptance, and how to honor your path without losing connection in the process.

 

Take a breath - this one goes deep in a really beautiful way.

 

We also talk about:

- Why wanting your partner to be “more spiritual” often comes from fear

- The ego’s desire for validation and belonging during awakening

- What it feels like to be the emotional “rock” during someone’s deep healing

- How to communicate when triggers and projections get activated

- The difference between individuality vs. shared identity in partnership

- Why spirituality is deeply personal and impossible to measure

- The emotional consequences of Lauren’s Sedona year and how they rebuilt

- Navigating pressure, burnout, and regulation while running a business together

- Letting go of performance on social media and embracing realness

- Building a relationship rooted in respect, sovereignty, and actual teamwork